Listen here as we’re joined by Ira Mehlman of the Foundation for American Immigration Reform — or FAIR.

Brett and Ira start the conversation by talking about the scenario playing out at the United States’ southern border. Ira talks about why he sees the Biden administration making the situation worse + shares some specific stats about what happens to many people once they reach America.

They then talk about Karine Jean-Pierre saying “the system is broken,” when it comes to the situation at the border and why they think it is Biden’s administration that broke it + talk about the reason for the rising numbers of people attempting to get into the United States.

Ira also talks with Brett about how the situation is impacting people in more places than just border towns + the role that the cartels in Mexico are playing in exacerbating things and how the chaos there can work to their advantage.