Woody Durham, Immigration, and Opioids

John Hancock
Wednesday, March 7th

Mick Mixon, former UNC radio personality, and current Plsy by Plsy voice for the Panthers joins Hancock to remember Woody Durham. Additional discussion about immigration and opioids.

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This is John Hancock. Wednesday as we can. Recommend an accident a couple of minutes. Mix that in these I don't know if you left hand side with the right hand side of the legendary woody Durham for 67 years and now. Talk to him about. The tar heel legend 76ers old way too young. Hmmm I don't know dessert irony then that the passed on the first day of the ACC tournament or seems to be. Some sort of irony in now. No Saturday the irony then affected. He ended up with primary progressive. Of say Asia. Which is a brain disorder. That affects your speech. And. And that's what dead essentially took another broadcast Booth. So. A mayor grew up in this area. Even you do rookies. And have some our respect for what he Durham because he'd been there for a long long time. So a lot we'll talk commitments in about that in. And just a couple secretary very good weather a little chilly outside you look out the window you think O events bring grades like Saturday Sunday we'll Cilic. I guess it was kind of chilly over the weekend though wasn't it. So I'm. What is too because deserve. We got more rain coming in but temperature wise over were hanging out the fifties for apparently all maybe mid sixties by the time we get to the weekend but. You know good news bad news mid sixty Saturday's upper forties Sunday. So they're gone out. Bottom ACC tournament is continuing today. Louisville beat up Florida State a little bit earlier today 82 to 74. Does that mean it. It over and any kind of a deep. Depression or anything like that present me his son's coming on merlot. And Boston College leads a North Carolina State. First half 3325. Or comprise on that as the day goes on me a Tar Heels and Syracuse 298. Add to what times are game time denied he gave it to me did it at that that. 830. It's one pregame starts does that mean tip offs like 930 for the TV says 9 o'clock so that would be a half an hour of them march baton of the TV so about 930 for tip off. But tonight. And does so willow will go regular schedule up until six pockets us and another six to seven Charlotte six with Mark Garrison in the seven days thirty Dave Ramsey. And an 830 will join your tar heel a network. And that's a way that'll go. And Jeff Sessions just blistered. California Democrats today for their. Open borders agenda. You just heard in my -- newscast this OP Lloyd overdose story continues. It's not get any better there's no reason to think it's gonna get any better. But their effectiveness. Is now being questioned verses over their counter pain relievers. Which even makes it all more absurd. And I don't know about anybody else it's not true with my current doctor that I know but mark talked about a doctor that I went to another Charlotte for a while. I would still be go into in my like Jim just fine my his staff drove me nuts. So I could go on because of and the women who were at the front desk. But down. I would sit in that waiting room and watch pharmaceutical reps walk yeah I mean every time I was there and I'm not there often but. I was there two or three times. And I would watch pharmaceutical reps walk in the front door and past the desk and in the side door and back to the back. And I you do is you knew what they were they repaired briefcases and to relieve and samples are no everybody knew all love first name basis and hey al-Qaeda mullah Abbas on so forth and and I liked this doctor just fine but I'll tell you want you would write a prescription in a heartbeat. In a heartbeat. And I and I'm not. Insinuating that he was irresponsible about it but he was certainly a literal about. Write prescriptions. So that that to me tells me a lot of real ways or at least influences how I feel about his OP ordeal. The influence follow the money and influence and everything is so it is. They've yet yes these big big big doctors are at I'm not questioning whether or not to prescribing stuff for paying. I am questioning whether or not they have to throw open Lloyds that it. Or if that's just the most advantageous way that they've been. Path to for them to take. I'm because of money influence and then another watched. And now it's got to be an epidemic can know so we'll talk about that a little bit before the day goes on fox. TV says they want it was that TV commercials down to to an hour by the year 22 money. It it it at that. Area. And they'll cost fourteen million dollars apiece. So long but they were all talk about Beckham's left on the to be a kind of funny our revenues available at 430 boomer luncheon in traffic and all talked to Mick mix a next. Wow. Hot we just turn the call from 1993. Low woody Durham announcing that the Tar Heels had just won the national championship. Mickey or sit right next to him then no we didn't hear you or you went off. The epithet but yeah I'll I believe that scarcity breeds momentum that's how role. Listen to your guy out how many years at his side and I know which side left side right side you were there 67 years. Generally although that sixteen year sixteen years now I knew you were involved with the with the North Carolina sports star driven to a UN also stretch and up in Maine for awhile. But I know that you were led his side for that long I thought the Euro a year your your play by play it was more limited than that so you know woody well. We. About common law and we were like old married. The girl while. We were all stunned when you took the Carolina panther job because nobody we just never thought anybody would walk away from from from the tar heel gig I mean you work you worry you were household name Monday in that deal and then all of a sudden you. Now came and took the panther deal which which by the way were all happy that happened. But to. I appreciate that that come from you that means a lot has been a joy is now are. But you know work a lot side of the wood man first sixteen feet since hum hum hum also honored to have my name mentioned along with it even and even in the small life. Is there and any kind of I guess the word would be irony that he passes on the first day of the ACC tournament. I got shot I don't know but. You know a lot of birds your definition of irony it's kind of stretched out now people using them all kind of the way it's I think that. The boot to the fifth Frasier that took away what he was most known for which was there's verbal communication skills. Would meet the definition of of ironic and in Manila tragic turn away and really cruel way you know. No no doubt on the unit and the pages seems to affect the professional communicators and not really sure why. There are some science behind nap but. Now it happened so fast woody was still going to games are talking about in my the other day so they saw him with his wife Gina if you Carolina game in the Smith Center. And then from what I understand you may know more detail than me but he excel. A week or so ago and it is then and then head trauma with some swelling in the in the grain is is what got us to it to where unfortunately we argued that. You know I did not know that because I was struck Barrett 76 even what the occasion as seventy sixes say is awfully young and you know had he not been well you don't know but I had he not. Been diagnosed with that in 2016 now you had every reasonable leave that this is the guy that would've still been called the games. He was such iron horse I mean I saw a thing about the other day. I was with him for those sixteen seasons we travel. To Germany together Spain the Canary Islands Hawaii Alaska. There was one and only one time in over a decade and a half that I saw them. With what you were I would. Would say. You know who we he got a cult he got a player that he may not be able to go walk out before it's each state game in Raleigh. Bob the manager of the tar heel sports network probably about 2 o'clock that it says that you ready look for about life. So we get over rally and when he's not great but he's. He's pretty good bit and after his vocal cords rope hamburger meat a couple hours earlier you want me it'll even make a sound. Next thing you know bloggers in the air. And you hardly notice that this week he did anything wrong with a on the he had this to robust in you system clustered determination optimism assignment. That was incredible. Well and and I and work as an ethic ACC commissioner Johnson Wofford is quoted a statement today talking about how impressed he was with how much work Durham did in before each game and then how easy made it sound and generally. People that make what they do for a living either look or sound easy are they guys that put in the most amount of work while before they actually go ply their trade and that's why it does sound like it sold so easy. I agree I agree YouTube there was one time when we first started working together that I decided. Yeah I was single I would have anything to go until I've decided that if you will he was legendary coach stayed after our state late work it's not saddled with my outlook in the stay on until Pakistan would not pay. As a tar heel sports network offices sparkle we reader wrote in Chapel Hill I was just gonna stay until he left so. 5 o'clock 6 o'clock secretary dog got 74891011. At about 1150. Sounded over there just you know just before the Internet I've never thought this was staring at the wall in left over Chinese lute. Pretended to work finally woody here packing up his back up so it must feel like yes I did not last that he leads. Next day comes out or submit what kind of worked it alas I doubt about what he's not state achievement that US may ballot authorities he pointed finger right at me like colonies would put put a firearm you say. You cannot win over the war till 1 AM. And no dad no indebted and no doubt in your mind. He had to win you know that's the way he was he had a talk he had to had to be on the winning Lotto. Talk to me our guys are two way conversations I can I wanna know about all I ask you about the second one no first NC we have time for the first or when you go to and two woody Durham. And you tell him that your readers thinking love or you are leaving for the Carolina panther job telling how he reacted to that and Noah and what he said. Well what it was great to be home. He hadn't seen were it like seeing wort important. People than me in my my mom and dad. I'll talk a lot about my personal life I don't see a point in it but I will culture that we know because it's germane to your question. Few days before I started my job in Chapel Hill in the summer they did not affairs castaway and commercial airlines scratch. And he and Williams so about a week later I started my job working with woody Tar Heels sports network and Lillian Jean reached out to me day. Nowadays they can just tell they cared about what he didn't quite turn out that you're not certainly does not hatteras either. But I they would then I'll never be able square up. So when apple would be Alice thinking about. Talking to the campers. He was great and so let me know how I can now. And and I think he was not thank you look alike that they use Sorenson media but who knows maybe he. You know maybe you want militia. The syrup goes on doesn't know that that's the industry no matter no matter what. It it does but you know there's always. I mean I've worked for the thousand people too but there are some that stick out I can't imagine that you're not one of the ones that that stuck out to him that's an interesting story and that kind of covered my first story to look at I wanted to know off. All right how are you are felt when you first does started jury jobs are you entered the second question and the first question I know that so that's perfect you're just as efficient as they tell me you are. I suspect. Well I'm honored to be on your short party give all the Hancock Sheryl. That you get good yes but I'm sorry we're talking under these circumstances but I appreciate you give me a call. That's is that guys anybody know how to be a tar heel fan if you like broadcast and it's like athletics in the crowd at the tar heel state. In this region has said that it would be perhaps the way the when he would want to feature that. For too long he'd want to celebrate the incredible legacy that he left. Well well and I I just look at our IAEA you know the great sports announcers of our time and the guys that deck and end up with a franchise or a college or something along those lines and become legendary as the teams that they cover. I grew up listening to Harry Carey called cardinal games and saw I I just love the legendary sports announcers are never have quite understood how you guys do it. But he was I would talk about life well looped. And it's probably as big as the big and water per him to be the Tar Heels voices it was for the Tar Heels to have him. Cannot die and not allowed the coaches and players that he covered John even when they are policy was being returned to implement our. Now. They have met thanks to covered up some time for a man I appreciate Jeff and now we'll talk to before the season gets started but I appreciate you give miss impounded it. Laporte don't let out. Thank you I'm expects infer Andre join this. Longtime partner oval woody Durham who passed away today at the age of a 76 and we did not know about the fall. And so I think America kind of brought us up to date on non. I know what made up of facilitated duo video passing over woody Durham area long time. UNC legend. Announcer. Radio voice of the university of north Carolina at Chapel Hill basketball football. 23 football bowl games. Thirteen men's final fours six national championships. Retired in a 2011. That's hard to believe. Diagnosed in net 2016 with primary aggressive us Asia which is a Brenner a rare for a brain disorder that affects speech. And that is the cruelest irony that a man who made his living. Achieved icon status. With his voice and his speech. Would have the take away from. He was a 76 years old it's a very sad day for everyone loves University of North Carolina because we have lost someone who spent nearly fifty years as one of the greatest champions and ambassadors outscored from Roy Williams. Who's a Tar Heels will play our on this very radio station news talk 1110993. WBT tonight. Our pregame at 830 but I tip off about 930. In the ACC tournament. Woody Durham was an Albemarle native. 1963 graduate of UNC. Spent fourteen years as a television sports anchor raise the thirteen time winner of the national sports media association hall of fame sportscaster of the year. In fact. He will be inducted into the north into the national sports media association hall of fame. Thumb along with the Bryant Gumbel. And he was set to receive the ACC's Bob Bradley award for spirit and courage. 1098. At the tar heel game in Brooklyn. So world. Roy Williams said it's ironic that what he would do passed away at the start of the a post season in college basketball because this was such a joyous time for him enough. And vote and make good mix and we just talked to. Had you know I don't know if that's irony or not. The cruel irony is that he would be here with a disease that affects speech. Which is something Minty utilized to such a high level. So I'm. Just a good person as he was a broadcaster. Wofford said that about him as well. So oil said Dave Tar Heels and a sad day for a of the ACC and in its own way I yesterday the drug administration says thirty yesterday I to a. I California sanctuary laws to protect people living in the US illegally. And today. Attorney general Jeff Sessions. Unloaded. On California Democrats. The Justice Department argued and as so lawsuit filed yesterday that three state laws that bar police from asking people about their citizenship. Status or participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. Are unconstitutional. And have kept federal agents from doing their jobs. California politicians. Doubted defend the laws Nancy Pelosi standing at the front of that line. Sessions that I has blamed sanctuary policies under which police can't help federal agents detain and deep port people living across the country illegally. For crime and gang violence he did that again today in a press conference. Defenders say that they increase public safety by promoting trust between immigrant communities and law enforcement which allow police resources to be used to fight other crimes. But today. Jeff Sessions and left no doubt. As to where he stood on all of this 'cause he unloaded. On now California Democrats. I asked his Justice Department has a sued that state or their immigration apologies and he warned their will be no secession. He spoke at an event for California law enforcement. And he noted. Worrisome trends. As violent crime has increased in net 2014 and 2015 particularly a surge in homicide and drug activity and he said that lawful. On law that he said that lawful immigration system was a part of but tackling some of those trends. Said that while America admits the highest number of the only excuse me why he is says that while America admits the highest number of legal immigrants in the world. The American people deserve. Illegal. Rational. Immigration system that protects the nation in preserves the national interest he said quote if I cannot. We go back to start again it cannot. Beat the policy of a great nation to reward those who unlawfully enter the country with legal status. Social Security welfare food stamps and work permits and so forth how can this be a sound policy. Many said meanwhile those who engage in this process lawfully and patiently. And wait their turn are discriminated against it seems that every turn. He turned on California he said that the open borders policy that refused to apprehend and deport illegal immigrants as they radical. Irrational idea. And they cannot be accepted any rejected the rights of the states to obstruct federal immigration law. There is no nullification said Jeff Sessions today there is no secession. Federal law is the supreme law of the land I would invite any doubters to go to Gettysburg. Or to the tombstones of John C Calhoun and Abraham Lincoln. He then tore into the Oakland mayor Libby shaft. Chapters the one who tipped off the public to an immigration raid in neo San Francisco Bay Area last week. And sessions said that move. Led do as many as 800 illegal immigrants. And I mean it looked hurt it looks straight into the camera and said how dare you. How dare you needlessly and bought endanger the lives of our law enforcement officers. To promoting radical open borders agenda. So he was. He was pretty direct. And he was pretty effective today now Nancy Pelosi reax almost immediately. Said that the lawsuit marked a new low from the trump administration and said that the president was abusing the legal system to push his mass deportation agenda the very idea that. They would actually try to enforce laws. That's that's. That's an ill fated agenda. More from Nancy Pelosi in a second. Boston College jump on a North Carolina State 1123 left to go and second half 6349. No Boston college's had a pretty healthy lead on non North Carolina State for. Now most of the game. App state distill by the way is up on a Little Rock. Which is expected little rocks like 724. Epstein it's fourteen and seventeen anyway upstate to winning that game 4625. Florida State. Oh loss to Louisville over earlier this afternoon in the ACC tournament and then I know that your actions to know that at halftime Colorado leads Arizona State thirty. 41 to a third. I'm sorry it. I'm sure nobody's interest to have scored. The battle in buffs. Shut they got a shot at the united T. I'm Nancy Pelosi talking about Jeff Sessions who just teed off. On California Democrats today for the radical open borders agenda. And on Nancy said the of people of California will not be bound by the trump administration's brazen aggression and intimidation tactics. Californians will continue to probably keep our doors opened to the immigrants who make Americans. Mara Jamaica who make America more American. Now we will fight this sham lawsuit and we'll fight all cowardly attacks on our immigrant communities. Nothing in their belt law legal or illegal. Sessions. Appeared to be happy to fight he said California is using every power it has and summit does not to frustrate federal law enforcement. So you can be sure I'm going to use every power I have to stop them. And he represented the Fed's and they represent the state of California so I Libya's embassy were all that goes. And you know what's gonna be contentious because. That's the way it works. In what has really seen as one of the most aggressive moves yet by the trump administration the Justice Department filed suit yesterday to block state loss from extending protections to people. Living in the United States illegally. And the Justice Department is challenging three California laws that in part. Prohibit police from asking people about their citizenship status or participating in federal immigration enforcement activities. No suit filed in federal court says that the laws are unconstitutional. And have kept federal agents. From doing their jobs. The California attorney or general is I got him. I. Name of those Xavier Becerra. Democrat. And says his State's quote track record so far when it comes to any dispute within the federal government has been pretty good. So willow we'll watch it no Woolsey what happens with all of that. Aside from us cities there are five states California Oregon Connecticut Rhode Island and Vermont whoever enacted laws. Debt limit how much police can contribute. Assistance to federal immigration agents. This is according to New York Times today. The California governor Jerry Brown signed the law that went into effect this year designating California as a sanctuary state. The law in part bars police from asking people about their immigration status and or participating in some federal immigration enforcement activities. So that's that's the crux of all of that. Trump had promised a crackdown on so called Sanctuary Cities and his attorney general is now doing just that a signed an executive order you'll recall on January 27 team that moved to strip federal. Grant money from my talent that harbor undocumented immigrants. Federal judge blocked that permanently in November of 27 chain. And the top administration. Said at the time that the drug administration lacks the authority to impose new conditions on spending they have already been approved by congress. But at the Justice Department has so taken legal action against California. Which is considered to be the first sanctuary state. So Jeff Sessions unloads on California Democrats today and that is one of your headline stories 4 o'clock I'll see you on the other side. Chance to win a thousand dollars comes up again another half an hour. On on news talk eleven Jan WBP and 9993. You may get Jeff Mike kills first Charlotte forty niner. Press coverage he's. New HD over there. We'll share some of that friend just a second adult friends or my ability every manager of the your Brothers proposed upon not FaceBook last night. And he's a duke failed. But he may be quickly becoming a Charlotte forty niner fan I'll explain why just a second we era just talking about it Jeff Sessions blistering. I mean. Blistering unload non California Democrats for their open borders agenda. David just called and it does 704571110. Under W bta David. Hey John are you sir good. Look at Larry we talk about this quite a bit but I just wanted to call and ask your opinion. When it comes down to California the federal government do you think really gonna win this fight. Our. You are worrying. When you're harboring illegals. And it looks to me like California is going to quote an element hand basket. What do you think we'll have more man. I I don't know if I given the courts yeah I don't know and I Ney and and now whoever would dare I don't know and and I wouldn't second guess the legal system the event they've. They seem to have thrown no. I'm gonna let down enough front of a lot of things that they got from administration is a tried to do that sounds like common sense to me yourselves within NATO shadows of the law so I I I don't know that I would make a prediction on that. And and then men and how long the legal process would even last once. 00 one's ruling start to come down. Are well. Let's question for a pure play it is. Doesn't the federal government control immigration. And if you have a state that blatantly. Usual to go get the law all. In law watts session but it now. Say you cannot do this. I think that that would be my reading but I again I go back to my original premise I don't know how the courts are gonna look at it. I mean yes that makes sense to me. But I made that I I I bet that's assay and then how long process does it turn out to be and then by the time all is said and done. But does it become effective dignity in the long run anyway I saw I I don't know I think it is got to consider watched the process I sure liked him today. And I'm not a Jeff Sessions sandbagged I thought he was thought he was but I thought he was magnificent event. But quality did he threw the gauntlet now playing shell hit. Not listen I'm. I'm done predicting a court actions and solo Woolsey were all that goes. Have no idea. On FaceBook last night and I see adult friends or. Who as and our buddy in the manager of the David Brothers. And he says as most of you know I'm a lifelong new duke fair and that will never change. But I must say that I was hoping for the best for the Charlotte forty niners they just made a good hire nipping my kill us their new athletic director. And he runs he puts a link to the press conference that he held yesterday which Joseph stall by the way his First Act was to a fire the man's general basketball coach used in treasure. They they do they need to start over there. I know reflection on used to me was doomed to have me if that's. That's like good inheriting your car without an engine. And in blame because you can't get it to a cross country album. But in the middle of the press conference the new athletic director of the year Charlotte 49ers says the best live band ever to exist. The Avic Brothers. From Concord just up the road here my favorite band I've only seen them sixteen times. So bomb. He makes a reference that south. A bit. Is there UNC Charlotte alone. And I wrote you sure I knew that. I knew Scott was east Carolina. But anyway sky as a vacation home and Blowing Rock he's been down in Florida for 25 years he's got all along I history here. He grew up in Clemson, South Carolina you attended college in North Carolina he's got family members a live in the Charlotte area he's got warm remembrances of things that happened herein are in their Charlotte when he was a kid he's in new athletic director and I he's got his work cut out for him to us. And I get to basketball program back to where it was under Bob eludes at least that far and and the football program as well but my killer should new athletic director but more importantly. Is that they are brother failed. So ignited our estimation. That's that's the way. That's that's the way to endear yourself two to be our own people. Arm raucous crowd waiting for the Carolina answers to pick a new owner could be sooner than you think writes. Answers went up for sale process. Winning bid could be selected as early as the end of this month or early next month writes the observer. That scenario would mean NFL team owners will vote to approve the sale during their may 21 and 43 meetings in Atlanta. Before that time the purchase agreement we'll have to be negotiated the league will have to conduct an extensive background check on the front runner and that and those things can happen concurrently. Team is expected to go for between 2.3 and two point eight billion dollars a lot of that'll have to do with. How much competition. Unfolds. The the pastor sale tentatively slated to have be discussed and voted on in the owners' meeting in May. The deadline for submitting bids. Although it is unclear when that is. Some modest group says they plan to submit a bid April 1. April Fool's Day. Some possible bidder so far would include Dave tepper who is the minority owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers who certainly has the money. Charlotte Charleston businessman have been Navarro we've talked about him extensively. The so bought this group was in there the for Tina Brothers so were listed for awhile but the last we heard from them was there out. DIA NFL expects to name a couple of additional bidders to emerge in the coming weeks in other words. I mean all potential buyers are required to sign a confidential reality agreement prohibiting them from my talking about their interest publicly so there could be some players here that we don't have any idea about. Some rich dude. From who knows where. Who would they're really liked output NFL team in their portfolio. In FL rules require controlling owner to hold at least 30% stake limit the number of total partners to 25 but this person writes in reality. The league wants its owners to hold a much larger stake. So while get through march I guess enough figure out where we are. And I would assume by the time we kick the ball off in a late August September 1 of the first game as after the pre season saw and so forth we got a new owner. Does he keep the same suite. As he wanna sit man's honored as you wanna be on the fifty. In those are pretty good you can watch past Federer serve break element lawyers Hillcrest circle was seconds on WB TA Chris. I know I kept you do not see that. Am I am from California born read who moved to Charlotte April. One of the big greens once for a job but it. Also because the poorest and are the poorest border in San Diego. Ed in yes it's a good joke I mean you call it a border that's you know people cross. Illegals crossed back and forth all the time I if it was getting ridiculous that and that illegals. Can get tax. Resigning from the government even though they're not citizens. You moved here for job but did the politics have something to do with at least your go consideration of coming to this part of the country. I'll actually get governor moon beam instead of me at all yeah. Jerry's been around for a good long while I he would he would governor when I was a child and I thought everybody got tired of the men are new program Greg. You're just came in from KL five Los Angeles so. Men may go what's your what's your biggest culture shock about moving due out Carolina accents. Oh yeah I know the content living. It was a good culture which is a good thing yeah yeah yeah you can count us out here yes exactly yeah I watch. These are these shows on TV were of this couple walks in and you know they and they find out rowly piece of crap house tonight can now get it for 750000. Dollars and I think. Who can do that. Now it's it's ridiculous then the other cost of living there as salary just. Now well welcome to our Carolina and and Charlotte in particular and thanks for the call are at it and off goes Chris or comes rob and only be key here rob. I get on top of that million. Israel quick. This California this situation. Should lose the juxtaposition of the last corralled Obama and his clowns. Swing states like Arizona. Or trying to enforce immigration all their books and here we have the power out but I guess. The federal government drowned that makes states and in sources. Yes and if so it was a good situation. It is. They need their immigration reform to me means they need to tailor something that. That's enforceable. So that we don't end up in this situation again which we promised we weren't gonna end up when we allowed amnesty under the Reagan administration. And no we didn't win not only allowed it to we allotted to be worse. And then all and also in fairness still. I mean the one thing I probably par with a lot of my listeners from ms. on the deck a thing and and those kids that were raised here and don't know anything else like you know I'd like a serious come to some kind of a compromise on that and and allow lab it. Absolutely I think it needs to be very heavily merit based. Have Hispanics that work for me for twenty years and they looked the best people who have ever met and so I I would. I would stand up there for them. You know until the cows came home and then that's that's what we need we get we. No and if you don't have struck out there if you don't have strong laws than you put these people into situations. Like many of armor and right now fearful about what the future's gonna hold and I mean in essence is because we didn't enforce the laws to begin with that they're now in the situation more than eleven fair. Com or else it's their fault. But nets that that the crew we have it but we bet they're splitting up. Bad apples out there that fit can take up a lot of time and resources of getting getting control of first before we start going after. You know teenagers or or. How schoolers or whatever that is always there if they're acting like they should then I think we need to concentrate on the bad actors first. Which seems to be an elegy double which seems to be what Jeff Sessions was saying today. That's who he wants to go after the people that are committing the crime and doing the drugs in this than the other the bad element. Of illegal immigration. And even the president said there ought to be some way that we can come forward on deck you know the deck a deadline passed follows a Monday. Because it's all tied up in courts in this than the other but that makes that that march 5 deadline that we are needed to come to some sort of agreement on. Artists can do that either. 53 seconds ago Boston College leads North Carolina State 8583. States tall. This game has been gone back and forth. I mean multiple times in the last. Four minutes of the game North Carolina kind of caught a menorah came back 858340. Seconds left to go occupy on that women just the second. First head over and I got about 45 seconds are all yours. Well I think it was wondering you know president trump put out there that he wouldn't take away but the doctor Patel man. And had they been used to become legal citizens based on. Marriott and some other thing. The more than what the Democrats or. And they clocked at get their document in Newport these people. Yet there anybody who is trying to do the work of presidency from being successful. I would say these people Lipton. Well it's a bit. Get this over with and stop. Well I wanna vary agri about a one of the deal by not having a deck a deadline. The means that you're you're not forced to to do anything you don't necessarily want to do 858540. Seconds left alone keep your breast to what's going on with the North Carolina State Boston College game. All right Jay Dardenne or you're giving tragedy ACC of Boston College just beat. North Carolina State wolf back. I'm 9187. A little bit earlier. Louisville. Beat Florida State 8274. And I have stayed didn't seem to be heaven very much problem on this afternoon with a Little Rock. 850 left in the second half on the ropes 74. To a 47. And since I've been mocked on email not gonna give you the cult. Auto Arizona State game because us. Apparently somebody you don't seem to be appreciative. It believe it ever since. But if you're Buffett just called George overview the score. George may explosive job. That you. Oh I'm sorry uses face. 1987. On March the seventh 66 day of 48 team 290 days 99 days to go. This is the date that Tyson in 1987 became the youngest heavyweight boxing champion. He beat and here's a name you haven't heard a long long time James Smith. And it twelve round bout Las Vegas he was only twenty years old. Peter Wolf Jake I'll spend 72 years old today Willard Scott today's show 84 they don't use him anymore to think I don't have a watch the today shows a longer. Wonder if he'll make a hundred you know I got to be his field. Tomorrow is give me today winner paralympics begin and that's in South Korea Pyongyang. And then when that's over with the negative which aired on that stadium. Tomorrow marks the ninth SXSW festival begins down in Austin, Texas. Sunday daylight saving time begins. 2 AM in the morning you have to get up for that you can't do it better than I have before that is the morning after you have to get up at 2 o'clock in the morning and they have to change corporate and otherwise you're watching never worked right. This trying to help. Selection Sunday is this Sunday. While the tournaments are going on right now and next Tuesday match marred met matched marsh and thank you March Madness. Actually begins. At Disney theme parks are now available on Google street view. United Airlines is rethinking a new policy after the employee rebellion when they said they were planning to do away with employee bonuses and and replace it with a lottery system. We thought that was going to be a good idea. They are couple is suing a Michigan township for preventing the opening of their us swingers club. Just exactly that is why do I have to sleep whether I'm here to get this. And workers at a daycare center and Illinois are were arrested for giving kids melatonin laced gummy bears to help them sleep better at nap times. And I guess you're not supposed to do that stuff. You well know. You've heard it all your life hip buy happiness. Apparently you can. Inherited. Studied nearly a thousand pairs of identical are not identical twins found genes control half the personality traits that make people happy while factors such as relationships opened careers are responsible. I'm for the rest of your well being. So are towards its it's your genes. This trial I'm so happy because I've I've chosen profession that I can Wear jeans my whole life in Toronto where. Slacks and suits and ties. That's what semi people are so miserable. She lacks. Big guys don't and that's very bad you gas don't tie. That's that's nowhere to be happy. There's a study that reveals that a mad vast majority of men are that is to dale boys say that they wouldn't mind if their wives brought home a bigger paycheck to now. So men are now welcoming their wives bringing home a bigger paycheck researchers were a little surprised to discover that just 12% of men surveyed said that they would mind that they mind of their wife for more than they do. And in general. Men seemed happy to share the breadwinner role and also revealed the vast majority of both men and women surveyed said that they didn't think the spouse who makes more money should have more say in the financial decisions. If you've got bad. You know. Doctor doctor John marriage counselor. If you got a good relationship with a hell cares. It's not my money. Or your money it's our money. I'm just. Contention for the tourism noted this but there is do you think that's a generational thing that the younger men today would not have as much problem what the but the older guys would have a problem because it's got a traditional that the but the guys roars the breadwinner and so you kind of feel like you're not picking up your end of the bargain of all the sudden you. I think if you look at in retrospect you words they yourself. It there a doctor in the house. Have stayed up until Iraq by thirty with two about two and a half minutes left in the game solo that's pretty much area a done deal Florida State. Lost to Louisville earlier this afternoon. And a Boston College just beat North Carolina State was in Leicester thirty minutes. In a game that actually last two or three or four minutes. It North Carolina stated to have pulled even. But the last thirty seconds to go well for them at all. So run that's the way that one works. They the guy who stole a Frances McDormand all Oscar. Formally charged judge Tuesday he could get three years in jail. Idiot. But he somehow or another had a pastor that after party. Black panther will soon become the eighth biggest movie of all time. In under three weeks. Like band the black panther has sister best Beauty and the Beast become the ninth highest grossing film in North America by Sunday morning they figure issued jump over the Europe. They rogue wanna Star Wars story gland and eighth place and by Sunday morning no black Panthers should be in the all time a top 45. A globally. So that movie seems to be doing pretty well and Mike Shannon is a guy. He played down the villainous Richard Strickland in. The shape of water. Which was a nominated for thirteen awards and got best picture best director of so he's an actor and now but he wasn't that. Hollywood's most glamorous event. He was gonna dive bar in Chicago. He is he ditched attacks and the red carpet and went to a Chicago dive bar on Sunday night worry watched his movie win four Oscars including best picture he's been busy and directing a production of ever read orchid theatre there of Chicago. And that's a few minutes from the old town ale house. And so he just wondered on down to the old town ale house and and watched the movies and no win all the big awards. Good for him so when my Canada. We talked to Mick mix a little bit earlier. About his long time association. Sat side by side with woody Durham who all passed away today at the age of 76 actually passed away yesterday at the age of 76. And so we'll share of that interview with few. At about forty minutes away from right now 535 below play that took. That Ted talk with a big mix and aren't. Nick even not told some things way to know not only about. What are you good Durham having fallen recently and that may have blood do is a death but also up. A story that I don't know fees are shared do with anybody or not about him my getting started. As the partner of woody Durham and and how audio felt about it to a knee decided to take to Carolina panther job so long. Voice of the Carolina Panthers Mick mix in. Another voice said that the legendary iconic voice of the university in North Carolina Tar Heels a woody Durham. We'll do that to the next hour. There's a dating app called bumble. You're familiar with a at all. Everybody in the room she exerted no. Not bartender either. They want you to go elsewhere to show off your weapons company writes on its blog as mass shootings continue to devastate communities across the country it's time to state unequivocally that gunmen. Violence is not a line without a rebel values nor did these weapons belong on bumble. The app has officially banned the use of individual photos showing users we guns knives and other dangerous weapons. They also donate a 100000 dollars to the anti gun violence so marched for our lives event which is set for a little bit later on this month. Usually. Official emails. Don't contain any questionable contents there are exceptions there was an email that was sent out on Monday afternoon. That was promoting the Utah State bars 2018. Spring new convention which is going to take place in Saint George. On behalf of the bar. And somehow or another it also included a photo op breast. Every active attorney in the state. It's on the distribution list and that's most all of them. And the bar is investigating. How the photo ended up being attached to the email which was created in the house inquiry has been launched and it's thought that the email either got hacked. You know that's what they'll claim because there's somebody out there. Who had a picture of breasts that somehow or another. Made an attachment and didn't. Our somebody someone internal attached it either on purpose or by accident but every active lawyer in Utah always email Leo photo of a breasts. I don't think they're talking chicken breasts here. So but it maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Sonics rolling out a healthier burger yesterday everybody was talking about McDonald's. The a new healthier birdie or for most sonic as they blend of beef and mushrooms. Tell you more about that. And you know there is one United States about US state. That only has two escalators. Throughout the entire state. Pretty thick. Now let's not Hawaii. US state that only has to. Escalators. And when Disneyland opened in 1955. Tomorrow land was designed to look like what here. In the distant future. You know that. You will you stick around what your chance to win a thousand dollars and his talk relevant did not united three WBT III. Terrible a pretty interesting. Articles today about people we ordered overdose. Epidemic. It's a go around this country were turned a bit earlier about having no set my doctor's office and wants to pharmaceutical reps a margin and walked past the receptionist and are going baca of CNET. Now that the doctor I'm going to right now but the one I used to go to a Charlotte. I mean that was I was only in that office two or three times over a long period of time and every time I was senator became. And they consider out there about his walked right on through. Our and and also. Of all the doctors I've been to this guy was the quickest to write a prescription for just. It almost anything. That's not say I guy could've at all I don't know what kind of Renato take a could have asked for something specific tournament. He had prescriptions seemingly for whatever it was they Lanier at the time. And and one of the things that they have a kind of figured out a government report out. Yesterday showed a big increase in no period. Overdoses last year. Which case is an emergency rooms of 30%. Late last summer compared to the same three month period of Torre sixty in the biggest jumps were seen in the midwest a million and cities. And they indicate that the open annoyed and epidemic is continuing to get worse not better. These citizens it's the Centers for Disease Control. Data is in fact. Likely an undercount they say since it tracks only about 60% of emergency room visits in the country and some people. Who overdosed don't go to the hospital. Appearance or were involved in about two thirds of all overdose deaths in notorious sixteenth. But the interesting thing that. There's a here all along survey. That's being released today as well. And it shows Sydney it offers are pretty grew. Interesting new evidence against using prescription OP lawyers for chronic pain in patients with stubborn back gates or hip or knee arthritis. Oh joy it's worked no better than over the counter drugs. Or not open yards. At our reducing problems with the white weight walking her sleeping. And provided slightly less pain relief but just slightly. If they don't work better than less. Risky drugs and there's no reason to use open yards given that really nasty side effects that we're seeing in the death of the addiction and all of that kind of stuff but that's what this study kind of showed. So these new numbers out Tuesday. Joseph America's all PR crisis is getting worse not better in 45 state OBO in orbit overdoses. Rose 30% in a year. And according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention CDC the nation is in the grip of the fastest moving epidemic for which there are no easy solutions Illinois. One of the hardest hit states. Nearly 66%. Increase in suspected OP or do overdose visits to the emergency rooms last year in Illinois. Increases in other states across the nation are even more alarming Wisconsin's up 108%. Pennsylvania. Is up 80%. Delaware. Up almost a 105%. In suspected overdoses. Increases in every geographic region. Increases in men and women and in all adult age groups. Overdoses till about five people. Every hour across the United States with the victims totaling 5400. More in 2016. Then other soldiers who died during the entire. Vietnam War. Now if you take that. Five people every hour. And that means that since we went on the air. Two hours ago ten people died and it'll be oil addiction. It's just Chris. This. Doctor. Doctor and then. She should. Acting director of the CDC says the potency and toxicity. Of what's going on in the city is very high right now so we think that there probably is not. An increase in people using drugs but there is an increase in the danger associated. With a single use. A doctor Erin know we are. Is the director of addiction services at Linden oaks behavioral health and he said we know that up to 90% of people will relapse in the first year. Going through rehab. And you can't tell me that one of the problems is the ease of writing the prescription for these things. I've gone. Some good dental work done in the past and it man not a Valentine center. That's all about trying to do an associate more with the other day in fact. There have been times when I've had some fairly major work done at Ballantine that they told me to go home and and take you know and bill. And I've got a left the office thinking gosh surely that procedure is gonna be more painful than that but it was that or the ad bill worked. Com and so there are more prone to me to say if you need something let us know but I'm not gonna start you off there. But I've had worked on it. I dental places in the past and I'm talking in the last forty years yourself. That have given me. The equivalent of OxyContin for just about anything I ended up with like five bottles of it at one point I finally dropped it off and they are drugs safe for the Belmont police department found a role when I was moving. Yes. No reason somebody should be stockpiled like that for us just pretty much didn't. Routine dental work so they're pretty easy to write about. I. Tyler may no longer oversell and Andy on WBT he called it a 7045711. Did handy. I'm John enjoy your children martz thank you not to bomb. But do be a statistic thing too much but Obama pharmacists want people on the smoke that. Wolf. Why did. Open your 80% of open your juices in the United States. And he knew why do you suppose that is is it because of incentives I mean is there an incentive for doctors here to write them. Oh no no arm. World knows who Psycho burn the creek complex. Problem. But I saw a piece of gone thus CBS sixty minutes. I'm sure it's something that people could look up there code. From the DEA. There's Luke forcibly. Prevented from enforcing any of their laws. And the same article talked about and this was in the critical walls built a small town in West Virginia. I've got equivalent huge vote. So pure it. Other auto on the pursuing would get so he's going to reach. These bogus pain clinics and thanks so Luke who belong involved or. Oh are no other costar. In Washington and. Had been that guy I go back to my original question as to what is the incentive to a doctor to write a prescription for all steroids as opposed to using that as his a last resort or a second or third option. As opposed to just. Riding a mile seemingly firm are very poor month of minor issues. Oh very good question the only not what could close. Maybe Americans are expecting an oak yours and just like how you mentioned. O'Sullivan did you have bill and he didn't think it was an anchor. Combat ability. Ibuprofen has a great drug has actually get more action against claim it's a pain reliever and the band will clam up or so. Now maybe it may be so that is expectations of the patients. Now although I wish I had. I've appreciate cult. If you got a good doctor. It needs supposed to be able to say no he wants to play set if that's not your best interest. Oh I know I'm so naive. ACC terror action earlier today Louisville beat Florida State Boston College squeaked past North Carolina State Boston College was pretty much had the whole game and in the last four minutes. NC state came back in May went back and forth and back and forth combatant force tonight about the last twenty seconds of the game everything fell apart so Boston College. Well moves on and Minnesota's Louisville later on this evening. And with a 930. Start time 830 judge charged the start time on a WBT. Via Tar Heels. Will love play yes Syracuse I think took off that'll be closer to 930 but our broadcast to our pregame will start at 830 on news talk 11109293. WBT retire I don't PR prediction and I incentives to doctors Jerry's up another WB teenager. I live in America. The road recruiting him to be precise I don't know of all your little while art painkillers in Turkey you know although it LaMarcus FaceBook. My wife and this is low continue to go reported small family. Saw that. And keep it at least once a week of Lebanese general comment Cushing like the dollar and and various other drugs. I would take the doctor about he sample if somebody gave them other things like trip and you know conference meeting there's been like that so. There worked in the sense they're going on you know what let me be clear I don't know if apple Fiore. And other things were were are back. That I appreciate all that sounds a lot like our lawyers to happen in the radio business when record revs were dropped barred tick you off the luncheon. And they had incentives from time to time and that was after the payola scandals. Allan Friedman all of that stuff. But. Yeah I think it does make it better get you to play a marginal record they can get you to play our crap record but they can get you know play may be one more cut off the soul and soul album that it already done okay but not. Quite as well as what they expected. Incentives Jason I got sixty seconds or all yours. Stay around there at the farm to revs can't do anymore of the unsigned act essentially crackdown that they can go out and buy you much anymore. Mobile down now to bonuses for the position and the they get their bonuses and profit customer satisfaction that's why I get our race for everything and if the patient more than satisfied. And it's not pain free but don't give a good satisfactory the doctor in the daughter doesn't get money. In exchange and settled on a tribe has where they can't control order and make you happy. Although the study that came out today said did the oh yards in some cases don't. Do better than just over the counter drugs so I mean to some extent. I wonder. I I guess it's psychological if you getting something powerful you think your doctor's doing everything he can't help you. Had a chance to talk a little earlier than Dick Nixon. Who is the voice of the Carolina Panthers but sat next to woody Durham who passed a way to de LA yesterday yesterday at the age of 76. Com for years calling tar hill games how many years at his side and I know which side left side right side you were there 67 years. Generally on the left sixteen years. Sixteen years and I knew you were involved with the with the North Carolina sports star driven to a UN also stretch and up in Maine for awhile. But I know the you were glad he aside for that long I thought the Euro a year your pure play by play it was more limited and that's a you know woody well. Com we. About common law and we were like old Mary. Blog girl while we were all stunned when you took the Carolina panther job because nobody we just never thought anybody would walk away from from from the tar heel gig I mean you work you were you were a household name Monday in that deal and then all of a sudden you. Now came and took the panther deal which which by the way were all happy that happened. But to. Appreciate that come from you that means a lot has been insurers now are. But you know work a lot side of the wood man first sixteen feet since Carl problem also honored to have my name mentioned fall within the human and even in the small like. Is there any kind of I guess the word would be irony that he passes on the first day of the ACC tournament. How gotcha on I don't know but. You know our group that put your definition of Narnia it's kind of stretched out now people using them all kinds of ways I think that. Don't boot to the press Asia that took away what he was most known for which was there's verbal communication skills. Would meet the definition of of ironic given in Manila tragic kind of way and really cruel way you know. No no doubt on the unit and the pages seems to affect the professional communicators I'm not really sure why there are some science behind nap but. Yeah it happens so fast woody was good stillborn became so popular body mind the other day so that saw him and his wife Gina if you Carolina game in the Smith Center. And then from what I understand you may know more detail than me but he shell. A week or so ago and it is and then my head trauma with some swelling in the in the brain this is what got us to the two were unfortunately we argued that. You know I did not know that because I was struck Barrett 76 even what do you pages as seventy sixes today is awfully young and you know had he not been well you don't know but I had he not. I've been diagnosed with that in 2016 and now you had every reasonably that this is the guy that would've still been column against. He was such an iron horse on the hop up I saw a thing about the other day out I was with him for those sixteen seasons we travel. To Germany together Spain in the Canary Islands Hawaii Alaska. There was warmed up only one time in over a decade and a half that I saw him with what you were I would would say. You know who really got a cult he got a player that's been happier with the law doubtful for the NC state game in Raleigh. Father Bob. The manager of the tar heel sports network probably about 2 o'clock that Newt says they'd be ready at unify our flight. So we get over rally and what he's not great but he's. He's pretty you have this and after his vocal chord rules hamburger meat a couple hours earlier he wasn't able even make a sound. Next thing you know bloggers in the air. And you hardly notice there this week he had been any thing wrong with a bubbly he had this robust in you system clustered determination and optimism assignment that was incredible. Well and enter and work as an ethic ACC commissioner Johnson offered is quoted a statement today talking about how impressed he was with how much work Durham did in before each game and then how easy made it sound and generally. People that make what they do for a living either look or sound easy are. Are the guys that put in the most amount of work well before they actually go ply their trade and that's why it does sound markets sold so easy. I agree agree YouTube there was one time when we first started working together that I decided you know I was single I would have anything to go onto I've decided that he was when he was legendary for stated after our state like -- father's side of that night I was gonna stay out until Pakistan of not great editorial sports network opposites topple we reader wrote in Chapel Hill I was just gonna stay until he left so 5 o'clock 6 o'clock secretary dog go 74891011. At about 1150. -- over there just you know just before the Internet and they thought it was staring at the Walton left over Chinese food fit tended to work finally woody not your packet that was back option to myself well why yes I did not last that he believes. Next day come there are certain that what kind of work Gillette I thought about what he not stayed achievement that you have a valid authority he told his finger right at me like Clint Eastwood put put a firearm you say he cannot win over the war till 1 AM. Talk to me our guys are two way conversations I can I wanna know about all I ask you about the second one no first NC we have time for the first or. When you go to two woody Durham. And you tell him that your readers thinking love or you are leaving for the Carolina panther job. Tell me how he reacted to that a Noah and Marty said. Well how would you grade every home. She and gene were in light Sheen were important. People than they in my my mom and dad I don't talk a lot about my personal life I don't see your point and it brought a little while sure that we know because it's germane to your quest. For a few days before I started my job in Chapel Hill in the summer they did not upstairs passed away in the commercial ship airlines scratch. Can you can would be and so about a week later I started my job working with williams' tar heel sports network and we Jeanne reached out to me they fear they they can just tell they cared about woody didn't quite happen if you're not certainly does not out of receivers. A lot of them are dead I'll never be able square up. So why apple would be Alice thinking about. Talking to the campers hump he was great and so let you know how can now. Sand and I think he was not think he would highlight the Saint Louis started to me gotta but who knows maybe can you. You know maybe you won the show this show goes on down you know that in this industry no matter no matter what. It it does but you know there's always. I mean I've worked for the thousand people too but there are some that stick out I can't imagine it you're not one of the ones that that stuck out to him that's an interesting story and that kind of covered my first story too because I wanted to know off. Well how are you are so when you first does started jury jobs are you entered the second question and the first question I know that's that's perfect you're just as efficient as they tell me you are. Well I'm honored to be on your show party get all the Hancock she wrote for you hit good yes but I'm sorry we're talking under these circumstances but I appreciate you hear me a call. That's the sad that I need but not to be a target of fan if you like broadcasting it's like athletics and if you're proud of the tar heel state well mr. regent has said that it would be perhaps the way the when he would want to feature that for too long he'd want us to celebrate that incredible legacy that he left. Worked well and I I just look at our IAEA you know the great sports announcers of our time and the guys that deck and end up with a franchise or a college or something along those lines and become legendary as the teams that they cover. I grew up listening to Harry Carey called cardinal games and saw I I just love the legendary sports announcers and ever have quite understood how you guys do it. But he was so I would talk about a life well looped. And then is probably as big as the big and water per him to be the Tar Heels voices it was for the Tar Heels to have him. And not gotten not a lot of the coaches and players that he covered John even when they are policy was being returned to implement. Now hey I'm Matt thanks to covered up some time for a man I appreciate Jeff and now we'll talk to before the season gets started but I appreciate you give miss impounded it. Lot closer dark side and tough. There all the talk was about to McDonald's and there are real beef patties there and frozen beef patties Mark Garrison on Charl and it's six yesterday ended up. Taste test with seemingly everybody in the building except us. I noticed. But anyway they went out and now bought some of the new quarter pounders with the beef and frozen and bad big taste test and he says he bought four of them but for murder as I can tell. He fed 22 people. Yeah I don't understand how that all works. My dad today we hear that test sonic is rolling out a healthier burger that is they'll blend of beef and mushrooms. They're looking for your looking out for your health. Hello there commercials I forget about sonic. And there's no one. Source I know there's no one anywhere near Belmont. So the chain's new blended mushroom meet murder. Was a hit in. In trial runs last year it's now available Islamic locations across the United States the birther is comprised of chopped mushrooms beef. And seasoning has been dubbed the signature sling her. Topped with cheese and veggies. And will only run it 350 calories just told by by comparison a regular sonic cheeseburger with ketchup 600 calories. What's like a big Mac a big Mac has like. Eight or 900 calories select them. Registered dietitian Erin Moore says of the blended birders their low calorie low carb high fiber. And have a nice meaty texture and flavor what it doesn't tell you here is it is a blend they say you know beef and mushrooms but. How much mushrooms and how much beef. But anyway you find that it sonic if you want to Argo and and no give that they are shot. Forbes magazine came out what the rich list yesterday we were talking about that they know also have come out with the fastest growing US city list. The annual list of America's fastest growing cities with its. Well a number one. Boise I did to Idaho there have been a Boise. The the population rose three point 08%. And 2017 cities from the south and the west make up most of the places on the list. Florida dominating with seven of the 45 fastest growing cities. Which is what Florida news more people. Demographics are driving Florida's growth with more people moving to its traditional retiree areas as the population ages and you know what that means sergeant. It means the next time we ever really active hurricane season all be coming back up here and moving into north and South Carolina like that your that they went like. For that crisscrossed the state and everybody can this work. Boise was an. Followed by Seattle that include Bellevue and Everett. Dallas Plano Irving three Orlando Kissimmee Sanford for Fort Worth Arlington five to a Dallas Fort Worth fins up with three and five. Las Vegas in that area followed by Nashville. Austin round rock pit area. Tom Cape Coral Fort Myers came in number O nine and Tacoma Lakewood Washington. Number ten so very real Tom. Charlotte is six foot mark here's what's coming up next I'll see you tomorrow at 3 o'clock I think you all for your time tonight John Hancock Charles most bloated we are. Coming here.
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